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3.Dont argue with someone stupid, they win by bringing you down to their level and then they beat you with experience. You can then remove the FLGR assembly from the slide. Rock Island pistols are manufactured by Armscor, and more specifically Rock Island Armory, which is often abbreviated to RIA. By the same token, I'm not real crazy about the finish on the Kimber either(Don't have alot of faith in painted guns. I simply press the FLOGR forward slightly and hold in place against the barrel. A barrel-integrated feed ramp, in my opinion is favorable over a frame-integrated feed ramp – especially when the frame is an aluminum alloy as is the SA ROC. Insert the bent paper clip into the hole to secure the assembly. With the SA ROC, as compared to the RIA CSU, the monetary loss is a little less painful, The Springfield ROC in the Modified SHTF Gear Holster, The Springfield ROC in a Leather Creek OWB Hoslter. I would not recommend this in a pistol that is intended for carry due to liability issues should that pistol is ever used in a self-defense situation. Just sayin’! I like that. As you may or may not know, I modified my ACE-1 Gen 2 Holster by removing the sweat shield; a feature that I do not like with a 1911-based pistol. Mec-gar also manufactures well-made, flush-fit 6-round magazines. I hope you didnt show your wife the targets, if so she is probably gonna get you to sell her Kimber and go buy 2 more Rocks. The SA ROC uses a dual recoil spring arrangement. Nothing really to rant about here as it performs its function well. Fitting a “Commander” slide on an “Officer’” is not a new thing, by the way. Although I like the “Commander” length 1911 with its 4.25-inch barrel length, I had been thinking long and hard about adding another compact 1911-based pistol and there are plenty in the marketplace to like. It gets the same precision fit as these pistols, too. This pistol is chambered in 45 ACP with a 3.50” button rifled barrel supported by a full length guide rod. With a bent paper clip at the ready, simply push the FLGR forward in the slide until you see the hole in the FLGR. The SA ROC is one of those pistols. Perform a function check and you are ready to go. Fit on the Kimber is better than the Rock. Rock Island Armory 1911 Pistol 45 ACP 10-Round Capacity Magazine, Blued Md: OEMP144510BL This magazine is for Rock Island's 1911 pistol and is constructed of metal with … The RIA CSU is a “Series 70” pistol in that it does not incorporate the “Series 80” hammer block in its manufacturing. There is not really too much to say about the styling of a 1911-based pistol regardless of the manufacturer. By the location, it would seem to be the second round in the magazine and was possibly a hollow-point round. With a barrel length of 4.0 inches, the SA ROC can be carried in anything that can house a “Commander” or “Government” length 1911-based pistol (for full muzzle protection) and any open-bottom holster like a Crossbreed Super Tuck Deluxe. But, I digress. I have carried the latter and it has been a good pistol; albeit, a new thumb safety is being installed because the original thumb safety was too soft for my liking. The beavertail grip safety, extended lightweight trigger and flat mainspring housing allow the pistol to sit in your hand comfortably for long periods of time at the range. The Rock Ultra is finished with a tough Parkerzied matte coating and adds battle ready G10 tactical grips. Rock Island Armory Rock Ultra CS - 45 ACP. At this point; however you will need the bent paper clip to remove the FLGR from the slide as an assembly because it cannot be removed without compressing the recoil spring and guide rod into an assembly. Personally, I would look at the SA ROC in 9mm over the Springfield EMP in the same caliber due to the longer barrel length. Additional safeties are your trigger finger and your brain. This is my RIA, on the right, same drill, 25 yds, sandbag, bulk ammo. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I was testing for function more than grouping, but I would try to attempt the best group possible with the ammunition used. Aside from the single-action revolver, where the firing pin rests on an empty chamber, the modern 1911 is one of the safest handguns in the world. Rock Island Armory Rock Ultra Pistol - Features a button rifled barrel supported by a full length guide rod. Taurian is an Oath Keeper, veteran, former LEO and Defensive Tactics Instructor. However, since most manufacturers do not control what is being produced by part suppliers the best that you can hope for in a Parkerized or otherwise treated carbon steel, aluminum, and polymer-framed pistol is that all the parts match as closely as possible. Even a contrasting black component (for example, Slide Lock and Thumb safety) looks nice. Includes a low profile adjustable rear sight and high visibility fiber optic front sight. I need go and not show. I should not be looking at another pistol at all, but the lure of a compact “Officer” model 1911-based pistol was just too much – and the search began. The Rock Ultra compact is built in traditional 70 series design and delivered with our precise engineering standards and first rate upgrades. The SA ROC feels right at home in my modified ACE-1 Gen 2 Holster by SHTF Gear that was intended for the Ruger SR1911CMD. JavaScript is disabled. I can live with that. The RIA CSU uses a two dot NOVAK rear sight that is adjustable for windage and elevation. Perhaps, it’s the design of the pistol, but the recoil is manageable and not all that much different from that of the Ruger SR1911CMD-A and Springfield XDs 4.0 45. Okay Aric, let's finish my two. The Guide Rod and Recoil Springs will rest against the Barrel Swing Link Housing. The SA ROC uses the shorter grip bushing and screws, but the grip mounting screws work well with the Hogue grip, and in fact, are slightly recessed into the grip. Later I got an Armscor Tac cs 3.5" and it has been a delight to shoot. Armscor Rock Island Armory 1911 BBR 3.10 .45 ACP 3.10" 10 Rds 51577 GI#: 101492238 This firearm is factory new in box, direct from the manufacturer or a distributor. The Range Officer® Compact has the same quality forged national match frame and slide as the Trophy Match™ and TRP™ 1911s. The ambidextrous thumb safety has an equally good platform for the thumb of either hand. The front strap incorporates vertical serration to assist in providing a good grip surface. Rock Island Armory Tac Ultra Pistol - The Tac Ultra has a full tactical rail and a button rifled barrel supported by a full length guide rod and full dust cover. Both have MIM parts so, that's a wash. Can't report on that for fifteen or twenty years unless something catastrophic happens. The barrel is then removed from the front of the slide. The trigger pull on the SA ROC is consistent at 5-pounds new with just a tad of grittiness, which will go away after working it a bit. At 25 yards I've got to mark the Target to tell which gun shot it. With that said, 7-round magazines work just fine in the SA ROC; they are simply not flush to the frame. That is easy for me to state, of course, because I have fired both of these pistols. On the face of it, it would seem that SA ROC magazine capacity of 6+1 would lose to the 7+1 capacity of the RIA CSU. It is disconcerting, however. Triggers differ between the two pistols. This says nothing about long term reliability, but in terms of fit, finish, and function, the diffferences in these guns are slight. Until retirement, Taurian had over forty-seven years of experience as a Technical Writer and Training Program Developer. Then, remove the slide from the frame. As with the RIA CSU, the SA ROC utilizes the beaver-tail grip safety as standard fare and incorporates the memory bump for positive operation. To assemble the slide to the frame, install the barrel as usual and insert the GLFR bushing into its normal position in the slide from the rear. However, the platforms are totally different and doing a comparison might be a moot point over all. (Note that the slide will be under spring tension at this point. I decided to use only the magazines that came with the SA ROC and loaded each with only five rounds – to break in the magazines. It’s focus was motorcycles and sporting goods, which included firearms and ammunition. The LFGR has a tendency to ride up slightly on the Swing Link mount. The SA ROC is shipped with two 6-round flush fitting magazines. Remove the “keeper” from the FLGR unit. I just bought a RIA FS Match pistol and have fired 100 rds thru it. I posted a review of the CS Standard Compact at http://guntoters.com/blog/2015/08/27/rock-island-standard-compact-cs-45/. The “keeper” is pushed into place on the Guide Rod and keeps the guide rod from returning into the slide. The thumb safety is a flat finish (Parkerized?) Press the slide to the rear and push the slide lock into the locking notch in the slide. The thumb safety lever has a more than adequate thumb surface and is nicely curved to accommodate the thumb when it is moving the safety lever in either direction. With that said it is sometimes difficult to find a set of grips or grip panels for the RIA CSU or any RIA 1911 with an ambidextrous safety. The TAC Ultra Compact introduces a full tactical rail. However, the cost of many of those is prohibitive to my current financial situation. Locate the disassembly/assembly notch in the slide and push the Slide Lock into place. Rock Island Armory seems to make the 1911-based pistol work very nicely. Whether you are looking to make upgrades or improvements, or your 1911 needs some repair work, there is a wide variety of parts to help. Just a wild guess, but you didn't post this thread in the Kimber section too, did you? With the all steel officers size frame, it does a good job of reducing felt recoil and muzzle jump shooting 9mm. Rock Island Armory 1911 replacement parts and accessories are useful when you want to do work on your pistol. ... TAC Ultra CS - 45 ACP 51470. Springfield has done an excellent job of blending both fit and finish with the usual culprits of Slide Lock, Plunger Tube, Thumb Safety, and beaver-tail grip safety being slightly different. Of course, shooting 9mm ammo is much less expensive. Perform a function check and you are ready to go. That pleased me very much. Rock Island Armory’s Ultra 1911: The PRO Match The Rock Island Armory PRO Match Ultra is a super-sized version of Browning’s eternal classic, the 1911. Cycling the slide is like buttering bread with soft butter. The Hogue grips add some needed girth to the gripping area while providing me more control over the pistol. While I prefer an ambidextrous safety, I have no issue with a 1911-based pistol that does not incorporate one. The front sight is a fiber optic type sight inset into a dovetail. SO, what did I gain (or lose) by going with the SA ROC? So, to what does one compare a lightweight, compact 1911-based pistol in .45 ACP to? Although stiff, it is stiff in both directions, which indicates that the safety was properly set up at the factory. The SA ROC list of features includes a forged carbon steel slide that is mated to a forged aluminum alloy frame. The Springfield Range Officer Compact made the Cut! Armscor-Rock Island Armory is a best-fit manufacturer for the pistols, rifles, shotguns and ammunition you need for your concealed-carry, home-defense, self-defense and competition shooting lifestyle. The original John Browning design did not incorporate a thumb safety. Note that I didn't say better, just more familiar. ARMSCOR/ROCK ISLAND Ultra CS Rock Island 51479 Rock Ultra CS Single 45 ACP 3.5" 7+1 Gray G10 Grip Black Parkerized The Rock Ultra CS has a 3.5" button rifled barrel supported by a full length guide rod. I'm not a big fan of Parked guns, which the RIA is. Both targets were set up at a distance of 10-yards. However, I changed the grip screws from black, polished steel to stainless to compliment the aluminum trigger and “peek-a-boo” barrel. As you may have realized after all of this is that the SA ROC was, and is, my choice. The magazine capacity is 7 rounds. Smooth angled, snag-free style allows for quick draw in fast need situations. Usually, when a slide and frame of different materials and finishes are united, there is some difference in appearance. The RIA CS Standard is now in the capable hands of a certified armorer who is installing a new Wilson Combat thumb safety and making things right. The SA ROC is ever-so-slightly heavier than the XDs 4.0 45 and also the Springfield XDs 4.0 9mm, which are two polymer-frame pistols. It includes a low profile adjustable rear sight and high visibility fiber optic front sight and is also fitted with a skeletonized hammer and trigger with adjustable over travel stop. i am not the brightest bulb but my very first 1911 was a rock traded a rem 1100 and a cz40p for it, still learning about all the things that you guys talk about, i trust my life to it, now i have another a 4 in, the fs has almost 5k in it, Shoot till they change shape or catch fire, Nah I dont ever read in the Kimber section tbh, couldnt give me one. Reset on both triggers is very close. The Rock series is Rock Island Armory’s most well-optioned line of 1911 pistols built in the traditional 70 series design with the addition of next level upgrades. One hundred rounds were chosen and one hundred rounds were shot without a failure. I gained a much higher quality pistol. The RIA CSU is a black anodized aluminum, 3-hole skeletonized affair with an over-travel adjustment. I'm new to the 1911 platform to what used to be considered decades ago an "expert's" weapon. The RIA is becoming a favorite gun very quickly. With all of the manufacturer’s propaganda and sales pitching aside, it’s time to look at both of these pistols and why I chose one over the other. I broke even in round count, since 7-round magazines fit the SA ROC, although they are not flush fit. Once the slide is removed from the frame, the Guide Rod assembly, now a captive unit is removed from the slide to the rear of the slide. Also includes skeletonized hammer and trigger with adjustable over travel stop and ambidextrous safety, which comes standard in the Rock series. Out of stock View Details ... Rock Island Armory 1911-A1 CS Tactical .45 ACP, 3.5", 7rd, … The 1911-based pistol has always been on my “A” list of handguns. So, what I have is like the manufacturer states, a “…competition grade 1911 that conceals better than a full-sized pistol, is a finely tuned performance in a smaller package, and in a straightforward configuration.”. The FLGR “unit” is then removed from the rear of the slide. By comparison, the SA ROC is on par with the Springfield XDs 4.0 45 in length while adding a cartridge to the capacity. Rock Island Armory’s most versatile, all-around 1911. This timeless overlord was initially designed in the late 19th century, and its popularity was increasing exponentially ever since. Although, it's probably as durable as the park.) Leave the “Keeper” in place on the FLGR unit. Rock Island Armory TAC Ultra CS - 45 ACP. No fuss at all, and just as accurate as the 4" Kimber. IV Series 70 (1970–1983): Introduced the accurized Split Barrel Bushing. It's the most accurate pistol that I have owned. Internally, the SA ROC is finished well with nary a tool mark showing. OUT OF STOCK (254) Rock Island Armory 1911 GI Standard FS .45 ACP 5" 8+1 CA Compli. The RIA CSU and SA ROC are both traditional styles with modern touches. Somehow, the idea of putting a safety in the middle of a trigger has never really made sense to me. I like the ambidextrous thumb safety because it allows me to operate the pistol easier when running the gun weak handed. And modern ammo with improved ballistics, like the new Sig Sauer 365 ammo I used in this field test, is designed for short-barreled pistols and gets the job done. Exposure to an acute stressful event enhances trace eyeblink conditioning in male rats, even when rats begin training days after the stressor (Shors, 2001).The authors examined whether the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), an area involved in stress and anxiety, is … Once the slide is removed from the frame, the dual springs, FLGR, and FLGR bushing can be removed after making it a “unit” by pushing the FLGR to the front of the slide until you can press the plastic “keeper” in place on the guide rod. It is fitted very nicely to the grip. Who needs adjustable sights on a defensive pistol? Smooth angled, snag-free style allows for quick draw in fast need situations. All in all, it was a very fine day for me and the SA ROC. However, the hammer’s safety notch is subject to fail and the pistol should not be carried with the hammer in the “safety notch.” Safeties are there for a reason other than annoying you, because your brain and trigger finger are not always in agreement. :biglaugh: I've got both, a RIA1911A1-GI(Slightly modded) and a Kimber Pro CarryII(Also slightly modded). Hold the Slide and Frame in this position and remove the Slide Stop (Note that the slide is under tremendous spring tension at this point). Models after 1988 returned to the solid barrel bushing due to concerns about breakages. The, I slowly allow the FLGR to move rearward until it contacts the swing link mount. It’s really not a hard decision to live with. Also, ensure that the Guide Rod is positioned to fit properly against the barrel (the indention on the base of the Guide Rod, fits around the barrel). Most Rock Island Armory models are targeted for the low-end price point of the 1911 pistol market and are basic entry-level MIL-SPEC versions of the 1911. ~Erma Bombeck. The Kimber is American made and a bit more refined, and the Rock Island could use a few modifications, but for a moderately priced 10mm 1911, it … Colt Government Mk. A simple press of the wrench allows me to remove or install the paper clip as needed to disassemble and assemble the FLGR assembly. The ambidextrous thumb safety has an extended lever that allows quick transitions from on-safe to off-safe and vice versa with either the strong hand or weak hand thumb. From what I hear the new Rock Island Tactical 10mm is a very good buy, half the price of the Kimber and twice as likely to work right out of the box. Between the SR1911CMD-A and the Springfield XDs 4.0 45, I felt that I had a good foundation for comparison. However, the slight damage is below the point where a round stripped from the magazine would contact and does not interfere with feeding any ammunition. If you don’t understand the terms “Series 70” and “Series 80”, please refer to HISTORICAL NOTES at the end of the article for an explanation (courtesy of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol). In my 1st Generation RIA CS Standard, there are slight signs of abnormal wear that was possibly caused by a round contained in the magazine coming forward against the feed ramp. Both triggers work very well, thank you. Any aftermarket 1911-based 7-round and above magazine will work in the SA ROC.

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