can you be buried on your own land

(Disclaimer: I was a major contributor to this topic's WP articles back in my heyday. The Australian company offering this service claims Aquamation is far less carbon intensive than cremation. Hoo-boy. For example, and this isn't intended to make any statement about these specific works, they're just examples and they may well get some work done soon during their respective WS:PD discussions: Based on the usual rate of editing for things like that, unless dragged up into a process like WS:PD, they'll remain that way a very, very long time. There are occasional exceptions to this, which is why I am suggesting to add them as deletion precedent and not as a category for speedy deletion. 2 was missing about 4 pages. Some outfits call coffins made of MDF 'eco' but MDF has resin binders made of toxic formaldehyde. Not all changes will affect you. Ideally, a completed TOC if practical, especially for periodical volumes/numbers. Books that are not biographies but treat the profession? For example, only a title page or single-paragraph "notice to subscribers" in a magazine is unlikely to be considered useful on its own. One shouldn't just give us shit or shit to tidy up, and not expect some kickback because they have had a "good" idea or a feeling. In order of publication, along with status checks: To Xover (talk • contribs), SurprisedMewtwoFace (talk • contribs), Jan.Kamenicek (talk • contribs), and anyone else interested: If you've got anything further on the matter, then please ping back. In NSW, the property must be greater than five hectares, and it must not be liable to contaminate drinking water and needs to be approved by the local authority. No scan links are necessary where the volume exists in mainspace and is scan-backed (e.g. Do we want: Personally, I lean (gently) towards #2, but with a fairly low bar for how much content is needed. Thanks! Thanks, BethNaught (talk) 23:41, 10 February 2021 (UTC), Just wondering if there are any plans at Wikisource to capture the proceedings of this impeachment? The problematic interventions imo include: Another example from the same book is here, notice especially the added legend. I'm unsure how best to proceed. It takes content, per. If we don't do this, the consequence is that we lose the automated Commons categorisation in our headers when they are attached to the work, not the edition. Professor Roger Short from the University of Melbourne believes natural burials to be the most sustainable way forward for Australia. Again personally, I prefer "Golfers Magazine/Volume 28/Issue 3/Ask the Egyptians" than "Golfers Magazine/1916/Ask the Egyptians" since we might as well put things in the correct place ahead of time and it provides the obvious place for things like front matter. Among the giant cheese wheels, toilet paper, Hershey's chocolate bars and Wagyu beef, Costco stores in Victoria and NSW now offer a selection of coffins. This community has had this conversation over and over and over about some people coming and creating a front page, and then do nothing else with the works. It has good illustrations and short poems. Also if you want to know the history of PSM and the hard work that has been done there, then come to me and talk. CHOICE supports the First Nations people's Uluru Statement from the Heart. Learn more. Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l. ESEAP Core Organizing Team, Wikimania Steering Committee, Wikimedia Foundation Events Team, 15:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC), there is a problem with transcribing "Tarzan and the Ant Men". However, there are other options, as Costco shoppers now know. 1 Chronicles 29:28 I would also be helpfully addressing the corrections with the contributor, showing them the corrections that I have made to get it to the standard and you will often find that they will go back and update to that standard. I think it would be a good idea to take a leaf out of frWS's book and add export links to the {{new texts}} list. So after a brief discussion at Author talk:David Hume, I uploaded two volumes of the same work to the Commons: File:Hume - Essays and Treatises on Several Subjects - 1809 - Vol. We have shared the Portal:Children's literature with Google so far. This page has been here since 2010; we don't have any way of knowing what links might have been created elsewhere in the intervening decade. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:17, 4 February 2021 (UTC). why don't you do a listeria from wikidata, and roundtrip the categories based on the query? Land to Aboriginal people is a major part of their identity and spirituality. Some examples of pages considered problematic would be useful for context. So it seems to me that there is a weak consensus for the change. And then, by-subject, by-author, related things and other curated content (like Portal:Punch has the makings of). At this stage I am not proposing that we remove the ability for categories in this manner, though I am proposing that where this style of addition is used, that there is a bot replacement to convert those categories into traditional style cat, and that this bot be run as an ongoing tool. When CHOICE asked a Simplicity Funerals representative from Sydney about bringing the body home for a period, we were told we'd need to have the body embalmed at a cost of $1000. I have now moved the file on Commons (I thought this should not be done unilaterally). Contact us if you would like feedback or more information. on that Index_talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:58, 18 February 2021 (UTC). With Fæ's uploading of the PDFs, it has become a horrible nuisance in so many senses to be forced to use the pdfs with inferior images, and inferior scans. It's a move that has met with resistance by some funeral homes, but many are now accepting BYO coffins. 2) on Archive.org or similar, though I wouldn't be surprised if the missing pages are exactly the same as the same numbered pages in a later edition. InvoCare's former chief executive officer Andrew Smith described pricing in the industry as "inelastic" – because only 15% of us are inclined to shop around when someone dies. They gain their strength through their land. -Pete (talk) 18:03, 24 February 2021 (UTC), See Wikisource:Author names for the most-often used point of discussion on the names used on Author pages. This one is probably even more controversial so it's a separate proposal: Collective works are commonly referenced by other works. When a person dies a doctor must sign a certificate that confirms the death and if there's anything questionable about the death it will be reported to the coroner. Put your idea into motion, and submit your proposal by February 10, 2021! As always, creating Wikisources index pages is preferred, but external scans are acceptable. Then we can get onto a structure. I strongly encourage redirecting such pages to appropriate WikiProject pages (after copying over the details there). To me it seems like creating a new edition of the work instead of transcribing the original 1907 edition. The government thought it best after about 100 orders or so to start numbering them, and I think we would be wise to keep following along with that. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:38, 24 February 2021 (UTC), Without getting into the specifics, I'd like to validate RAN's frustration. If main ns exists and has reasonable content, then I would be pointing WD to main ns. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC), Probably been asked many times, I am the lead author of Taxonomy based on science is necessary for global conservation which is an open access paper from the journal Plos Bio. Other reasons are: At the same time the section Current collaborations is currently placed in a box which is unnecessarily large and partly empty. I suggest the words "eligible for inclusion" are the problem with some of these criteria. I can leave the images out, they are not actually relevant to anything in the story, or I can replace them with images I do have rights to. Otherwise it is exactly as Beeswaxcandle says. Notably, I find "facadism" of a collective work much less annoying than, say, only having the preface to a novel. Apologies for the error. What is looking to be achieved, and indications of what is trying to be stopped. If the community starts insisting on index pages, what will happen is the rapid upload of a large number of scans for the periodicals that already have their own page. That people think that making them available is going to be helpful or get a quality product is naï thinking. The same search in the search box finds the work. (With special thanks to WorldCat, our last resort in times like these.) First off, I differ with Xover in terms of the scan links: I think they're better than nothing, and I don't see much value in duplicating the volume list onto an auxiliary page just to add scan links. It's not a dictionary so it doesn't obviously need a lkpl, and it's not big enough to merit an article link template of its own. However, I can sympathise with the sentiment that our mainspace shouldn't direct users off-wiki (or at least off-WMF). [This is imported from WS:PD, where it applies to multiple current proposals, and several other works]. They'll store the coffin for six months and deliver it. Such "collective works" have slightly different criteria for inclusion in the main namespace. In case you're keeping track, it's been a month and a half since I came back to WS—after an eight-year lull induced by Google+ and whatever else. The component should be "non-trivial" in scope and importance. Developed templates for them for the display of their works. Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. That's right: I'm referring to Čudnovate zgode šegrta Hlapića, a 1913 children's adventure by Ivana Brlić-Mažuranić. Do any internal required tidying around internals of templates, and fixing double redirects. As long as a single article exists, it's not "trivial" (e.g. (Or, if you must, your userpage.) For the Round 1 open call, we invite you to propose grant applications that fall under community development and organizing (offline and online) categories. Although neither WS:Annotations nor Help:Annotating speak about altering original pictures, I would say that this falls under the annotations policy. It operates low-range Simplicity Funerals, mid-range Guardian Funerals and top-line White Lady Funerals, as well as a number of other brands like Green Endings. Often editors use a "non-breaking space" to make a gap between two items when reading but still show them together. The Church has always had strict guidelines, as well as many other statutes and it is expected that people of the Catholic faith abide by those guidelines. The export links being visible drive a lot of downloads: the featured texts get around 4000 downloads each: https://wsexport.wmflabs.org/statistics (which, if I'm reading that page right is about 2/3 of all epub downloads) and nothing that's not a featured text gets a look in. See. For instance, A Critical Dictionary of English Literature is linked from the relevant Wikidata entry. There is not another scan to my knowledge of the same edition+volume (1809, vol. A few pages (of the volume itself) is not very helpful, and is entirely useless if their is no scan given. (Which a lot of folks outside the Catholic movement are hardly aware of. Is there a strict rule about the name of an Author entry? I keep having to come back to fixing up works that are just dropped into main namespace and it is entirely shitful the inconsistency and the management that needs to be undertaken to fix these up. This is largely due to the ongoing maintenance required for grave sites. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC), Please help to format a table in reference: Page:William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England (3rd ed, 1768, vol II).djvu/218. In previous years, I have helped plenty of people in guiding them in setting up particular works in guidance of this community. Not sure how much consensus is required for this and Kaldari should have an opportunity to weigh in, so posting here. There are approved natural burial sites in most states. Part of me feels that I could/should just delete both files and try again with a different edition of the same work that is in fact complete, as no edition of Essays and Treatises on Several Subjects appears on wikisource yet at all. That said, it's not necessarily any individual person's fault. Build the content, work with the users to build the content. The "Other editions" section belongs on an auxiliary namespace page (Talk, Portal or Wikisource). I know that we created {{header periodical}} to capture where we have more sporadic collections of articles from newspapers. Real answer: import moar scans! I created Author:Eddie August Schneider (2,220 Ghits) and another editor insists on moving it to Author:Eddie August Henry Schneider (453 Ghits), twice now. If so, it might be better to make it before the end of the year, so that works newly entering public domain can already be added with new templates. For example, a book about what an Astronomer does, how they train for their profession, and such? All the rest can be validated now. --, If I have not made it clear, this is an amazing project, everyone deserves praise for their hard work. That is why they need their framework, and the work to set them up. Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Currently, there appears to be no requirements for either. The author page is linked to WD and to WP, it has birth year, death year, and occupation categorisation. When CHOICE spoke to a representative from Simplicity Funerals, we were discouraged from bringing our own coffin because it added "another level of stress" and we were asked "How would you get it here?". Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. —unsigned comment by AleatoryPonderings (talk) . However, the images are not ours. One Australian study found cremations to be 10% greener than burials. That people ignore the experience people who have tidied these up previously because they have a better idea, just is wearing on those who have been there before. The funeral industry promotes embalming and the pre-funeral viewing. ], Since there has been no more input for a month, here we go. I'm thinking the asterisk-ellipsis might confuse the contemporary reader (extrapolating from the fact that I was initially confused until it clicked). Recently at Wikidata, people have been breaking churches into: the building, the congregation, and the cemetery. We got rid of a stream of pages that had a header only and no content. --. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:29, 28 January 2021 (UTC), @PseudoSkull: Sorry the last upload wasn't really usable in its current form. This means a sub-page should not be created if there is no content. It's important to tell your family what you'd like for your funeral. Appropriate infrastructure around the work should exist. Also, I think that this might circle back to "good for export" - a mark which certainly would require completed issues or volumes. An FSC plantation timber coffin would be far more sustainable. If the person is an author they belong in Author: ns, if they are not an author they belong in Portal: ns. For clarification: by "Parent template exist to make this readily easy." Contact us at projectgrantsTemplate:Atwikimedia.org. The point is that these works often have so many volumes (often dozens or hundreds) that they must have their own page, and cannot be merged into a larger portal or wikiproject. While the entire project is being scoped out, in the first phase Google Read Along will take works from Wikisource and integrate on their platform. --SGill (WMF) (talk) 07:32, 14 January 2021 (UTC), Hi to all. If you're contracting the services of a funeral director it's important you know your rights before making that first phone call and it helps if you understand how the industry operates. A header with a brief description including active dates, major editors, structure (e.g. So, no, I am not imposing my personal style preference. This was kind of like an interview where we explained how this seminal series came about. (SurprisedMewtwoFace (talk) 14:55, 20 January 2021 (UTC)), As Professor is a title rather than an occupation, I was thinking that this may be better described as "Academic" though would like to hear the opinion of others of what to do with this category. Many texts exist in multiple, differing versions. Burial in a shroud instead of a coffin requires an application to the relevant Chief Health Officer (NSW) or their delegates and must meet certain conditions. And I couldn't tell you whether it is written down or not in our help pages. A funeral director from Sydney told CHOICE that the concentration of the industry in Sydney meant prices were going up. We could dump tens of thousand pages into main ns with links to archive.org and that would look totally shit, and help no one find anything. The need for this one indulgence regardless of decrees against innovations.--. The green beauty departs from various wharves and can take up to 12 adventurers at a time for $200–250 per hour. a CC BY 4.0 work, not including the template, may be a copyright violation. The article should be linked to from any relevant author pages and suitable portals. Followed by Portal: and Category: namespaces which we sort of do. I think these pages are necessary to list index pages and external scans of multi-volume works (such as encyclopaedias and periodicals) especially if they are wholly or partly anonymous or have many authors or are simply large. I have no comment on other aspects of these proposals, but I think portals should not be used as the main linking places for volumes of specific magazines. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:28, 19 January 2021 (UTC), Is there some reason why the US Gutenberg and other sites don't have public domain versions of this yet? Secondarily we have Author: namespace which we look at our main curated space. So it's little wonder that funeral homes have deftly taken the reins from families, creating a $1 billion industry with high profit margins. a magazine issue). It is only a change of the names of the templates, what the readers see will not be affected by this. (Already did a Thornton W. Burgess story about an otter family on the final weekend in January; spent more than a fortnight on an 1880s Malagasy grammar [because Madagascar isn't that well-represented here]; and at this writing, have begun transcribing that 18th-century history on my homeland by Thomas Atwood [because coverage of the Nature Island here is similarly all but nonexistent].). The Natural Funeral Company in Adelaide will transport the body to the mortuary for storage, and then to the service site and the burial place for $1300. The article itself is free to be redistributed. The coffin is much more visible and clients may be motivated to spend more. Are they to be placed in existing subcategories, To note that I am still unfinished on moving and tidying the authors by occupation categories. No misrepresentation of what we had. (You can stop after this point, without worry that your work will later be discarded.). A few sentence is "brief", no one is advocating copying and pasting the entire Wikipedia article here. Otherwise WS is unreliable. There are only two problematic pages here, one that is an image and one where I cannot create Minunian glyphs represented on page without an image. Not one. Front matter of each intervening level the "parent unit" (e.g. It makes word indexing and searches confusing if not impossible altogether. The word "facadism" is needlessly offensive and should be deprecated in favour of something that doesn't sound like it refers to habitual dishonesty. Tip: Ask a funeral director if there are any extra fees that come with sourcing a coffin yourself. Because you will have to pay for your water usage once connected, you might also want to get an idea of local rates. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:04, 3 January 2021 (UTC), @Beeswaxcandle, @Billinghurst: Conflicting instructions (but thank you). This may be different from our site licenses of CC BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL. You can read more about Google Read Along here: https://readalong.google/. Why would you delete the page instead of just adding the links? The article should be linked to from any relevant author pages and suitable portals; If an article is orphaned, that is certainly a reason to add links to the relevant author page or portal. It has been said and said => Main namespace takes published works. (I remember borrowing that edition, entitled The Brave Adventures of Lapitch, as part of my WP research.) In present time, numerous funeral homes now perform a simple embalming. The provided file is not a DjVu document". One source told us the appropriate time frame is 24 hours. We at CHOICE acknowledge the Gadigal people, the traditional custodians of this land on which we work, and pay our respects to the First Nations people of this country. A funeral is a ceremony that accompanies the final disposition. But if we don't have the scans, and that's what the user wants, they're leaving anyway. I will accept that there will be early works that I transcribed that may be incomplete by that standard and I would not transcribe them that way today. Thanks Sp1nd01 (talk) 10:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC), The new 'download' button is now live on pages in the main namespace. Some works are composed of multiple parts that can stand alone as independent pages. The first being beauty, which I am so weak for. This can be used to avoid a line break. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 15:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC). The commons has guidelines for making suitable images. Cheers Faendalimas (talk) 17:37, 18 February 2021 (UTC), I am not able to open any index of a DJVU file. If there is nothing there, then I would point it to the Portal: ns. These bulk loads and dumps into the main namespace are not much different. The following is required for such a work: In our early years people came here and dumped scans of OCR'd text that was scraped from IA and then walked away. Uploading my first book is impossible for maschiene to read, I think that's the prerequisite for further editing. I'll try to come back with my take on the specifics after reading through the comments more thoroughly. Which makes it officially off-limits at Wikisource, along with CroatiaFilm's cute, brilliant, but highly underrated animated adaptation (the one with the mouse) from 1997--of which I have been a fan since its blink-and-miss airings on Disney Channel at the turn of the millennium. Issac Leung of Scientia supplies the Chinese and Italian-made coffins and caskets to Costco, priced from $360 to $3800, they're delivered in two days. If it's not scan-backed, but it's fairly high quality, I am personally willing to do some work trying to locate a scan and match it up to the text; I'd rather we take that approach, than deletion, though of course deletion is the better option in some cases where the scan is very hard to come by. Therefore PDF downloads for e.g. If you want to know about setting up a project to transcribe and transclude 63 volumes of Dictionary of National Biography then come to me and talk. It is just ugly and too much personal point of view, and a flat structure just takes away all those aspects, and allows for articles to have as many categories as they require. Is this the sort of thing that should be rendered as it was in the olden days, or is it OK to silently modernise it? It is great that they are so many and so they deserve to be promoted in their own section. This should not be happening where we have populated the Commons category with images from one edition. These allow for burial without a coffin in a natural environment allowing nature to take its course. I'm starting to thing about making a fix for the {{TOC begin}} family and that might need a bit of bot finagling to remove things like blank lines that will cause issues after the fix is made. The description lines is just that, it takes the relevant data, it is not a pen biography. Show me with the pathway to have quality proofread page. For example, see Template:New texts/item/testcases for a comparison. I do like this idea not only because of the current admirably large supply of film transcriptions by PseudoSkull. Is there a way for me to add an editor's note or similar pointing the reader to this page on the Internet Archive? ", In his book, Funeral Rights, Robert Larkins advises that you don't allow the body to picked up before you've agreed on your costs: "Funeral firms are all too aware that if they can get the customer to agree to the body being picked up, the funeral – and the profit that flows from it – [is] as good as theirs.". WS's text is completely undocumented, has no authority, and users of Wikipedia are not helpfully referred to it. I have been using the copy of the Book from Hathi Trust to add the images, and this copy has a clean page here. Thank you so much! What should happen? This page was last edited on 26 February 2021, at 02:40. --RAN (talk) 01:54, 7 February 2021 (UTC), Hi to all.I have recently noticed that there has been some movement of categories at the edition level at Wikidata to the work level. Whether or not to transcribe this formatting is left up to the transcriber. " The mark-up on coffins by funeral directors can be greater than 100%. 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